Losers All Around….Loss For Mesira…Loss For Meshichistim

Wow, what a great week for the good guys; what a great week for the community of Crown Heights and for the Chabad Lubavitch Community at large.

The week started with a smashing election which bought out almost all those  eligible to vote (2,064). The message was clear…”NO more MESIRA…NO more MACHLOKES….MOSRIM GO OUT!!!”

We must however complete the job we started. If we want to start over clean we must get ride of all the dirt.

The week ended off with another great victory. After 16 years of terror from the Meshichistim Mosrim and hundreds of thousands of dollars wasted for lawyers, finally a clear ruling is delivered….GO OUT!!!!

It is the communities hope that those in charge will do what is necessary to finally clean up our home base.

We are not out of the dirt yet, we are only half way through, we still have a way to go, G-d willing we will get there.



The Matador is the Mosser.
The Muleta (rad cloth) would be the Mesira.
The above [Picture] depicts the results of ones [own] Mesira.

When one sees a scene like this (ouch), should he/she feel bad? If you are going to put yourself in a dangerous position, don’t cry when you get it up the @$$. Thats the risk that one takes when entering the ring. If you play with fire, don’t cry when you get burnt.  The very same factors apply to a Mosser.

2.The Gabboim

(L-R) Ex-Gabboim: Zalman Lipsker, Avrohom Holzberg, Yosef Losh, Menachem Gerlitsky

If one wanted to express how the Gabboim gave it to themselves up the @$$, the above picture would be enough.

After a record number of voters whom never voted before, specifically show up to the polls to vote for change in 770, the three elected Gabboim (as a result of these votes), stab the community in the back.

The community came out to vote for these guys because of this…

Click image to enlarge or just click link above

A day before a major court preceding regarding 770, Rabbi  Osdoba sends a letter to the  Gaboim, basically stating the obvious “You Were Elected Under the Campaign of No More Court”.

The reply from the Gabyiom was simply put, a stab [a betrayal] in the back for all those whom came out especially for them and especially for the purpose of NO more Mesira.

Back stabber Yosef Losh: Worse then Sperlin and Polrorak

When COLlive contacted Losh at 1:48 PM he said he had not seen the letter (it was sent to his home). But after hearing of its contents, he immediately asked to respond.

“Is this a joke?” he wondered. “We never made such promises. All we said was that we will work to make 770 a welcoming place for everybody. Nothing about the court case.”

Asked for a response, Yosef Katzman, Rabbi Osdoba’s representative who campaigned for Gerlitzky, Holtzberg and Losh, told COLlive: “It was written on ANewCrownHeights.com, and based on that, the community voted.”

Losh, who said he speaks on behalf of his colleagues (besides for Lipsker), said: “We had nothing to do with that website. Our only election literature was the printed booklet by the election committee and it’s not mentioned there.”

The very next day….

Breaking: Judge Rules, Gaboim must Return 770

Aguch Wins 770 Shul

Thank G-d Mr. Losh expressed his true colors when he did, good riddance, 27 days and counting…See Ya!!!


3 Responses to “Losers All Around….Loss For Mesira…Loss For Meshichistim”

  1. New Crown Heights Says:

    on December 9 the 22 day in kislev was the starting point when all mashchissim falling to the pit.
    2 years took the mossrim to build a messira agaist the shomrim and on the 22 day of kislev good show this mosrim who is boss and from than on everything mashchissim do fails.
    remember the blood and money of the the shomrim 6 will be counted for ever. the mossrim loosers will only loose every bit

  2. WhoIsShmira? Says:

    Kol Koreh (Announcement) from about 70 Rabbis Prohibiting Archaos (Civil Courts) and Mesirah

    We, the undersigned, in the name of HASHEM and His Torah, are greatly pained by the terrible chilul Hashem which has been occurring recently, even among Torah observers, who allow themselves to transgress the prohibition of avoda zora through the use of non-Jewish courts with his fellow Jew.

    Regardless whether the parties are coerced or even willfully participate, it is included under the dreaded ban of mesira as explained in Shulchan Aruch (Choshen Mishpat 388:9) that one who has a Jew tried by non-Jewish courts, even if the defendant was wicked and harassed him, the plaintiff has no share in Olam Haba. The Gemara (Rosh Hashana 17a, Avoda Zora 26b) mentions that a moser descends to Gehenom and is punished for many generations.

    We therefore warn our fellow Jews of the following:

    1) No Jew or Jewess, wherever he may be, is allowed to go to a non-Jewish court, or to their offices or officers, without exception. If there should be any disagreement between Jews, they should turn to a Jewish Beis Din for their legal proceedings according to Jewish law.

    2) It is not permissible under any circumstances, to summon a fellow Jew to a non-Jewish court prior to summoning him to a Jewish Beis Din. If he refuses to appear at the Beis Din after receiving three subpoenas, the Beis Din will issue a Contempt of Court (“siruv”) and treat him as described in Shulchan Aruch.

    3) No Jew, even if he is a rabbi or leader, is allowed to permit other Jews to go to non-Jewish court before summoning the other party to Beis Din, without following the procedure as described above (paragraph 2). Just as no rabbi or leader can allow the worship of avoda zora or the desecration of Shabbos, likewise permitting Jews to go to non-Jewish court is prohibited. If one did so, he is considered a “machtei es horabim” (one who causes other to sin) and is required to be excommunicated.

    4) A Jew or Jewess who says that they will take a fellow Jew to the non-Jewish courts, and they were warned of their sin and didn’t listen, mitzva laha’rog otam, and whoever acts first is worthy, as is the case of a rodeif (one who chasing a person to kill him). (Shulchan Aruch, Choshen Mishpat ibid.)

    5) A Jewish man or woman who calls the police on the other, is included in the classification of moser. This is also true if they were quarreling, chas v’sholom, unless there was a life threatening situation when it is permitted if no other means are available to save oneself. However, afterwards one should go to Beis Din.

    6) Whoever is awarded money by a non-Jewish court, whether it be from business dealings, or alimony or child support, in an instance when it is not entitled by the laws of the Torah, such money is considered stolen (“gezel”). If we have the opportunity to help the one whose money was taken through the non-Jewish court, we should do so. If the moser repents, he must return all improperly acquired monies and related expenses, and must beg forgiveness of the one from whom he extracted money for all the suffering that he caused him.

    7) It is a mitzva to publicize the names and addresses of Jewish mosrim and their supporters, in order for Jews to know from whom to stay away. Whoever knows of a moser that hasn’t repented, it is forbidden to assist him in any way until he repents.

    8) Women who turn to a non-Jewish court to force their husbands to divorce them, or to receive money not in accordance with the halacha, such a get is invalid and the money is stolen, and it is forbidden to marry these women. If the woman remarried with this get, children born from the marriage are mamzeirim. Likewise, men who are required according to the Torah to divorce their wives, as ordered by Beis Din, and they refuse to obey the Beis Din in order to render their wives agunos, it is a mitzva to excommunicate them from other Jews and to publicize their names until they listen to Beis Din and divorce their wives.

    9) Women who summon their husbands to a non-Jewish court, it is forbidden to marry them, for they are considered wicked (“reshaim”) who descend to Gehenom and forfeit their share in Olam Haba, and therefore they should remain unmarried for the rest of their lives. Regarding one who does marry such a woman, our Rabbis tell us that the first husband removed a rasha’a from his house and now a second man takes her into his home! If the second husband is worthy, he will divorce her, otherwise, she will become a widow and bury him . . .

    10) It is a mitzva to publicize the “rabbis” who advise men and women to go to non-Jewish court, without following the procedure as described above (paragraph 2), for they are responsible for the terrible chilul Hashem and abandonment of the Torah. Their ways are repulsive and their halachic decisions are invalid, since they are considered from those who cause the public to sin, which is from the twenty four items that prevent one from repenting. The Rambam (Hil. Teshuva 4:1) explains: twenty four items prevent repentance, and four of those items are great sins that Hashem does not give one the opportunity to repent according to the severity of the sin. Those items are: 1) one who causes the public to sin, 2) one who influences his friend away from the proper path to a lifestyle of evil, such as a meisis u’madiach, 3) whoever can protest the wrong ways of others, whether an individual or a group, and doesn’t do so but allows them to remain in their wrong ways etc. And these three items are all found by these advisors who convince men and women to go to non-Jewish court.

    We are awakening everyone to restrain themselves and their families from this evil way of emulating the goyim, chas v’sholom. Whoever knows of these transgressors should supply us with their name and address and we will be on the lookout.

    Yechezkel Hanovi tells us: “That you say, `Let us live like the goyim,’ that will never happen.”
    In the merit of this may we be worthy of the Redemption, speedily in our times.

    Vaad Olami L’maan Kovod HaTorah V’haganas Hadas

  3. sydney Says:

    very well put. i really liked your parable on mesira.

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